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📺 YouTube Inbound — They saw the ad and called or filled out a form
What this mode is

They responded to your YouTube ad. They may not remember doing it. They didn't search for you — your ad interrupted their video and they were curious enough to click or call. Trust is lower than a warm referral. They may be skeptical. Some won't remember the form at all.

Your job in the first 20 seconds: name yourself, name why you're calling, and earn the right to keep talking. Don't ask "did I catch you at a bad time?" — say "is now a good time?"

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📞 Open the Call
First 10 seconds. Name, company, reason.
Start here
"Hi [Name], this is Terrance Wilson with The Funding Clinic. The reason for my call — you responded to one of our YouTube ads about a cash-out refinance on an investment property. Is now a good time for a quick few minutes?"
If they say "how did you get my number?"
"You filled out a form on our landing page after seeing our YouTube ad. Want me to resend that confirmation to you?"
Say it warmly — not defensively
Offer to resend the receipt. It ends the suspicion immediately. Never sound caught off guard.
Never say: "Did I catch you at a bad time?" — studies show it reduces connection by 40%. Always say "Is now a good time?" instead.
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🚫 Disqualify Fast — Two Questions
Do this before anything else. Saves everyone 20 minutes.
Do first
"To make sure I respect your time — is this for a property you rent out, or a home you actually live in?"
Owner-occupied = exit now. DSCR is investment property only.
"And roughly what loan amount are you looking to pull out?"
Under $100K → "Our minimum is $100,000 — at that size the closing costs wouldn't be fair to you. A local credit union would serve you better." End the call.
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🤝 Build Trust — Two Sentences Max
YouTube leads need this early. Keep it short or it backfires.
YouTube-specific
The formula (Conversion Code)
Cobrand + Stat. One thing you align with that they already trust. One number that makes you the obvious choice. That's it. Don't over-explain — it sounds like a scam.
"I only get paid if you close. That's it — no upfront fees, no hourly rate. I'm on your side."
Why this works
The transcripts show this line lands every time. It tells them you're aligned with their outcome, not collecting a fee regardless of result. Instantly separates you from banks who charge application fees whether you close or not.
"I prefer to underpromise and overdeliver. I'm going to shoot straight with you on this call — if it doesn't make sense for you, I'll tell you."
Use this when they seem guarded
This is Terrance's natural voice — it already appears in his calls and prospects respond to it. It signals transparency before they've asked for it, which is more powerful than defending yourself after they raise suspicion.
"We've closed deals in [their state / their region] — I know how this product works in your market."
Use this for geographic credibility
Investors care whether you've done deals where their property is. If you have a closed deal in their state, say it. Alvin Blair — Georgia. Troy Hammond — Savannah. Real closed deals beat license numbers every time.
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🩺 Dig Deep — Ask Before You Talk
You're a doctor diagnosing. Don't pitch yet.
Diagnose
These are your ARP pivot questions
After any wall — Rate Wall, Trust Wall, whatever — you ARP and land on one of these. Pick the one that fits where the conversation is. Ask it. Then stop talking and listen.
  • "What are you looking to do with the cash once you pull it out?"
  • "Do you own this free and clear, or is there still a balance on it?"
  • "How long have you owned it? Is it currently rented?"
  • "Have you tried going through a bank? What happened?"
  • "What's your FICO score looking like — ballpark?"
If they ask how DSCR works
"Simple — as long as the monthly rent covers the monthly mortgage, the house qualifies itself."
Stop there
Don't explain the math. Don't explain the ratio. That one sentence is the entire pitch on how it works. Everything else comes later.
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🔍 PUO — Find the Hidden No Before You Pitch
Ask this BEFORE the pitch. Never after.
⚡ Critical
"If after we go over everything and you agree it all makes sense — is there any reason you wouldn't be able to move forward today?"
What their answer tells you
"No" — Real buyer. Close hard after pitch.

"Need to run it by my partner" — Shield. ARC it now before pitching.

"Worried about the numbers" — Walk through the breakdown verbally before sending anything.
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✋ 5 Yesses — Read Their Words Back
Their answers. Their goals. Get five confirmations.
Script
"So just to make sure I have this right — you own a rental in [city], it's [free and clear / has a small balance], you're looking to pull out roughly [amount] to [their goal]. You've had trouble qualifying through a bank, and you don't want to have to show tax returns. Is that right?"
Why it works
Every "yes" builds commitment. By the time you pitch, they've confirmed their own problem. You're not selling — you're solving what they already told you they needed.
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🎯 Pitch — Solve Exactly What They Said
Feature → Benefit → Tie-down. Nothing extra.
Script
"Here's what we do. We use the rental income on your property to qualify you — not your tax returns, not your W-2s. As long as the rent covers the mortgage, the house qualifies itself. We can pull out [amount], close in [timeline], and you walk away with [net proceeds]. No bank drama. Does that solve what you came here for?"
Stop there
Don't pitch the rate. Don't explain DSCR math. Get the yes on the concept, then move to step 7 where you walk through the numbers together — including the prepayment choice.
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🪣 Walk Through the Numbers
Two parts. 7A happens on the call. 7B happens the moment the sheet is ready.
⚡ Never skip
7A — ON THE CALL  (before you hang up)
Why this happens before the sheet exists
The fee sheet gets prepared after the call — you need their info first. So right now, walk them through the structure using what you already know. Get them to pick the broker fee option before you hang up. When the sheet arrives, zero surprises.
"Before I let you go — let me walk you through what you're going to see in the email so nothing looks surprising when you open it."
1️⃣
Only thing out of pocket today
"$99 for the credit pull. Nothing else comes out of your pocket upfront."
2️⃣
Broker fee — pick one right now
"Option A: comes out of the loan, you get a lower rate. Option B: rolled into the loan, rate goes up slightly but more cash in your pocket. Which do you want me to put on the sheet?"
3️⃣
Title & state fees — not ours
"You'll see title and settlement fees on the sheet. Government transfer costs — same with any lender. We don't keep any of it."
⚖️ 7C — Prepayment penalty — ask right now while you have them
▶ SAY THIS
"One more choice on the numbers — prepayment penalty. Zero penalties, you're free to sell or refi anytime. Or commit to 3 years and the bank gives you a lower rate. Which fits better?"
Push back on penalty → ARC it: "Flexibility or the lower rate — which fits your timeline?"
"Good — I'm putting the sheet together now with [A / B] on the broker fee and [zero penalty / 3-year] on the prepayment. Sending it over now. What's the best email?"
7B — WHEN THE SHEET IS READY  (call or text first — never send cold)
The rule
Prepare the sheet. The moment it's done — call or text first, then send. They already know the structure from 7A. Now you just want to be live with them when they open it so you can walk each line together. A prospect who opens a fee sheet alone and in silence will almost always panic.
▶ CALL OR TEXT FIRST — THEN HIT SEND
"Hey [Name] — your estimate is ready. I'm sending it right now. Can you pull it up while I have you? I'll walk you through each line so it's clear."
Never send and wait. If you can't reach them at send time — text them first: "Sending your estimate now — calling you in 5 minutes to walk through it."
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✅ Close — Application on the Phone, Right Now
A sent link is not a close. A submitted app is.
⚡ The close
Run this in order
Credit pull first — locks in the exact rate. Then the app while you have them live. Every step they do with you on the phone raises the chance they finish it.
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Credit pull
"Before I can lock in the exact rate for your scenario, I need to pull your credit — takes about 60 seconds. Okay to do that now while I have you?"
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Start the application
"Let's knock this out right now — takes about five minutes. I'll walk you through every field. What's the property address?"
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Confirm the deal as you go — fill in the blanks
▶ SCRIPT — customize as you go
"So we've got [property address], you own it [free and clear / with a balance of $___]. Current rent is $[amount] a month. You're looking to pull out roughly $[amount] to [their goal]. We're going with [Option A / Option B] on the broker fee and [zero penalty / 3-year] on the prepayment. Does that all look right to you?"
Why read it back
Every detail you reflect back is something they said. Hearing their own decisions confirmed builds commitment. It also catches errors before the app goes in wrong.
⚖️ Confirm prepayment choice here if you haven't already
▶ SAY THIS
"Real quick on the prepayment penalty — zero penalties so you can sell or refi anytime, or commit to 3 years and the bank gives you a lower rate. Which fits your plan better?"
If they push back → that's an ARC, not a wall. Acknowledge → explain the trade-off → close: "Flexibility or the lower rate?"
If they hesitate on the app
"Is there any reason you wouldn't be able to move forward today?"
Then ARP or ARC what they name
Wall → ARP it. Buying question → ARC it. Either way, come back to the app.
If they can't do it live
"I'm sending the link right now. Can you get to it this afternoon or tonight? I'll text you when it's there."
"Later" is a stall. "This afternoon or tonight" is a commitment. Always give two options, never an open end.
📅 Scheduled Appointment — They booked a time slot
What this mode is

They booked a specific time to talk. That's a buying signal. They expected your call. Trust starts higher than cold YouTube inbound. Your job: confirm, reference what they gave you, and get into discovery fast. Skip the warm-up small talk — they already said yes to the call.

Before you dial: Spend 3–5 minutes looking at their form data. Note their loan amount, property city, or anything else they gave you. One specific reference = you're not another robocaller.

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📞 Open the Call
They booked. They know you're calling.
Start here
"Hi [Name], this is Terrance Wilson with The Funding Clinic. We had a call scheduled today at this time — still good to go?"
If they seem confused or forgot
"No problem — you filled out a form about a cash-out refinance on an investment property. I just wanted to make sure I could answer your questions. Do you have a few minutes right now?"
If you have their data — use it right away
"I see you put down [amount / city / property type] on the form — is that still what you're thinking, or has anything changed?"
Why this works
Referencing their own answers separates you from every broker who called and said "so what are you looking for?" You already read the file. One data point used naturally = instant credibility.
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🚫 Disqualify — Still Ask Both Questions
Form answers aren't always accurate. Confirm before you go further.
Do first
"Before we dive in — is this for a property you rent out, or a home you actually live in?"
Owner-occupied = exit now. Scheduled appointments still disqualify.
"And [the form said X] — is that still the loan amount you're looking at, or has that changed?"
Under $100K → "Our minimum is $100,000 — at that size the closing costs wouldn't be fair to you. A local credit union would serve you better."
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🔄 Dig Deep → PUO → 5 Yesses → Pitch → Three Buckets → Close
Same sequence from here. Switch to YouTube tab for steps 2–8.
Same sequence
From step 2 onward
SPIN questions, PUO, 5 Yesses, pitch, Power of Choice, Three Buckets, credit pull, app — identical to YouTube flow. The opener is different. The process is the same.
"I'm sending the link right now. You set aside this time already — can we knock it out together while I have you on the line?"
Scheduled-specific close
They committed to a time slot. Referencing that commitment re-anchors them. "You already blocked off this time" is a soft social pressure that works.
📺 Trust Wall and "How did you get my number?" hit more on YouTube. Find those first.
📅 Shield and Stall hit most on scheduled calls. They had time to think between booking and talking.
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🚧 The Rate Wall
"Just give me the rate." / "Can you beat what I'm getting?"
What it means
They want one number to shop elsewhere. Give it now and you lose them before the conversation starts.
A — Acknowledge
"You want to know the rates — no problem at all."
R — Respond
"I'm going to cover all the pricing on this call — that's exactly why we're talking."
P — Pivot (pick one — say it, then stop talking)
"Quick question first — are you looking to buy a new property, or pull cash out of one you already own?"
🔄 Other pivot options
"Do you own this property free and clear, or is there still a balance on it?"
"What are you planning to do with the cash once you pull it out?"
"Have you done a DSCR loan before, or is this your first time looking at one?"
Why the pivot works
The moment they answer, they've invested. Investment creates momentum. Pick ONE and lock it in — don't rotate mid-call.
⏳ The Stall
"Let me think about it." / "I'll look it over this weekend."
What it means
Scared of something — rate or fees — and won't name it. A stall with no next step is a quiet exit. "Perfect, perfect" is the sound of you accepting it.
A — Acknowledge
"You need time to look it over — that's fair."
R — Force the real fear out
"What specifically do you want to think through — is it the rate, the fees, or something else?"
C — ARC it now
"Let me ARC that right now. Which one is it — the rate, the fees, or the timing?"
Never say "I'll follow up." Lock in a specific day and a specific time before you get off the phone.
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🛡️ The Shield
"I need to run it by my wife / partner first."
What it means
The spouse is an exit vehicle, not a real blocker. The tell: "I don't want to waste your time." They were already planning not to come back.
A — Acknowledge
"You want to talk to your wife first — completely understand."
R — Separate real need from polite exit
"Were you two on the same page before this call?"
What their answer tells you
Yes → schedule them both. No → now you know the real issue.
C — Spouse becomes the next scheduled call
"Let's get her on the call too. What time works for both of you tomorrow?"
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🔒 The Trust Wall
"I don't know if I can trust you." / "How did you get my number?"
Hits more on YouTube. They didn't search for you — your ad found them. Suspicion is normal. It's not personal.
What it means
Not aggression — fear. Past experiences on high alert. Walk around it, don't fight it.
A — Acknowledge
"You want to verify exactly who you're dealing with — that's incredibly smart."
R — Give them something real
"Here's what I can tell you: I only get paid when you close. No upfront fees, no hourly rate. If this doesn't make sense for you, I'll be the first one to tell you."
Why not the NMLS number
Most of these leads aren't in California and won't know what NMLS means or how to look it up. Saying "I only get paid when you close" is verifiable by logic alone — they don't need to go anywhere to confirm it's true. It lands harder.
P — Pivot past the fight (pick one)
"Before I build your quote — are you trying to minimize the monthly payment, or maximize how much cash you pull out? Those are two different strategies."
🔄 Other pivot options
"What's the property — single family, or is it a multi-unit?"
"Roughly what loan amount are you looking at? Just ballpark."
"Is this a property you've had for a while, or something you recently acquired?"
Why this works
They can't say no to a question about their own goals. You broke their script without challenging their suspicion. The call moves forward without a fight.
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💸 Fee Shock
"These fees are astronomical." / "I wasn't expecting $13,000."
What it means
They opened the quote alone without context. Prevention is the real fix. This is the recovery.
A — Acknowledge
"Those numbers look huge — I completely understand why that's alarming."
R — Walk through it line by line
"Think of it like a receipt — every cost is on its own line. Let me tell you what each one means."
1️⃣  $99 today — that's all that comes out of your pocket upfront.
2️⃣  Broker fee — your choice. Lower rate and it comes out of the loan, OR roll it in and keep more cash. Never from your bank account.
3️⃣  Title and state fees — government transfer costs, same with any lender. We don't keep any of it.
C — Choice close
"Does that make more sense? Would you rather roll the fees in, or have them deducted from your payout?"
Real fix: run Three Buckets verbally before every quote email. Every time.
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📈 Rate Shock
"I expected something closer to 3–4%." / "That's way higher than I thought."
What it means
High-FICO borrowers expect residential rates. Pre-frame the rate difference before quoting it.
A — Acknowledge
"I hear you — it's higher than a residential rate and that makes sense to question."
R — The trade-off
"The reason is the trade-off. No tax returns. No W-2s. No income verification at all. The bank takes on more flexibility — and the rate reflects that. You're paying a small premium to bypass the entire qualification process that's blocked you everywhere else."
P — Pivot to their goal
"The question isn't what the rate is — it's whether the cash you pull out does more for you than sitting locked in the property. What's the plan for the money once you have it?"
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🌊 The Hidden One
Seems engaged but never commits. Goes on tangents.
What it means
A fear they haven't named — carrying cost, timing, another deal they're waiting on. Can't ARP what you can't name. The PUO question surfaces it before the pitch.
The fix — ask before the pitch
"If after we go over everything and you agree it all makes sense — is there any reason you wouldn't be able to move forward today?"
Timing matters
Ask at peak trust — right before your pitch. After the pitch, their guard is back up and the honest answer is gone.
If they go on a tangent (side business, MLM, random story)
"I love it — and honestly, once we get this property squared away, you'll have the capital to do exactly that. But if the right deal shows up next month, you need to already be pre-approved or a cash buyer beats you to it. Let's get you set up right now."
🔄 Then immediately pivot with one of these
"So tell me — what's the property you're looking to pull equity from?"
"How long have you owned that property?"
"Is it currently rented? What does it bring in?"
Why a question, not a statement
A tangent means they're stalling while deciding. Redirecting with a question pulls them back into their own situation — which is where you need them to be. A statement just continues the tangent.
📺 YouTube only
"How did you get my number?"
"You filled out a form on our landing page after seeing our YouTube ad. Want me to resend that confirmation to you?"
Build trust — two sentences
"I only get paid when you close. No upfront fees, no hourly rate. If this doesn't make sense for you, I'll be the first one to tell you."
Always — every call
🔒 DSCR in one sentence
"As long as the monthly rent covers the monthly mortgage, the house qualifies itself."
⚡ PUO — before every pitch
"If after we go over everything and you agree it all makes sense — is there any reason you wouldn't be able to move forward today?"
💬 When they stall — instead of "Perfect, perfect"
"What specifically do you want to think through — is it the rate, the fees, or something else?"
Everything else lives in the flow steps ↑
Credit pull, application, numbers walkthrough, close script — all in steps 1–8 on the Call Flow tab. This tab is for quick-grab lines only.
📺 YouTube — disqualify more often mid-call. They arrive earlier in their decision.
📅 Scheduled — form answers aren't always accurate. Still ask both questions first.
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Owner-Occupied Property
"Is this for a property you rent out, or a home you actually live in?"
"DSCR is investment-only — I can't help on this one. Your best bet is a traditional bank for a primary residence refi. Have a great day."
💰
Loan Under $100,000
"Roughly what loan amount are you looking to pull out?"
"Our minimum is $100,000 — at that size the closing costs wouldn't be fair to you. A local credit union would serve you better for a smaller amount."
📉
FICO Below Floor
"What does your credit score look like — ballpark?"
"We need at least a 620 to get this done. Let's revisit in a few months once you've moved the score up — I'll make a note to follow up with you."
🏗
Raw Land / No Structure
"Is there a structure on the property, or is this raw land?"
"DSCR needs income-producing property — land-only isn't eligible. That would need a construction or land loan, which is a different product entirely."
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No Rental Income / Vacant
"Is it currently rented? What does it rent for?"
"With no tenant we'd use the appraiser's market rent estimate — trickier but possible. Tell me more about the plan for the property."
🔁
Already at a Low Rate (2–3%)
"What rate are you at now on this property?"
"Trading out of a 2–3% rate to access equity is a tough math problem. Have you thought about a second lien instead? Or does this have to be a full cash-out refi?"
📊 Credit Score — Quick Reference
DSCR Minimum: 620 FICO
The floor. Below this, there's no deal — not even with strong assets or equity.
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Below 620
"We need at least a 620 to get this done. Let's revisit in a few months once the score moves up — I'll make a note to follow up."
⚠️
620–659 — Works, but limited
Qualifies, but max LTV drops to 65–70%. Less cash out, higher rate. Tell them upfront so there's no surprise on the quote.
660–679 — Solid
Good deal range. Up to 70–75% LTV depending on loan size.
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680+ — Best terms
Full program access. Up to 75–80% LTV. Best rates. This is the Alvin Blair / Troy Hammond profile.
How to ask it on the call
"What does your credit score look like — ballpark? We start at 620 for DSCR, so just want to make sure we're in range before we dig in."
Say the floor number. It screens unqualified leads before you've spent 30 minutes on them.
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